DUST Search - Reality check on the joke that is going to best destiny

Serimos Haeraven wrote:

MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:

Serimos Haeraven wrote:

When the developers of the the recent Halo's and Call of Duty were making this game, i knew it would be a completely flop. They are masters at building a ton of hype that idiotic little kids buy into, but i have known better since halo 3, and call of duty 4.

Erhm, Halo 3 was Bungie's eff you to MS since they were locked into project and a contract they just didn't want.

The originators of COD are making Titanfall and that game is indeed looking better and better.

Titanfall is also a great example of how Activision can't actually develop anything truly new. They say that they are starting from scratch, when if you watch gameplay it's obvious they are still using repeated textures used in call of duty, the environment even practically looks the same as a CoD game when you watch the gameplay. That's the thing about bungie and Activision, they claim they are the innovative force in the gaming industry, when in-fact they are one of the least innovative in the entire business. And Halo 3 wasn't the only error in Bungie's long list, you also have Halo Wars (just a typical strategy game with halo slapped on the name), ODST (should have just been a simple dlc), and even movies made after Halo. They profited on the fact they could keep repeating the same **** over and over again and people would buy it. Same thing happened with Call of Duty. It doesn't take much to keep repeating the same thing that gives you easy profit, but it's a whole new ball game when you decide to truly innovate every title you release.


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MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 58	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:34:00 - [1] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Bungie has announced that PvP won't ever be a factor although competitiveness through pve will be encourage. There's only 3 classes with limited spells. So basically it's a pve heroes dream, it's pointless, un challenging and no competition. Just the same old grinding rubbish with nice graphics. If your a competitive PvP type gamer then this game is absolutely 100% not for you, Link
MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 58	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:37:00 - [2] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: When the developers of the the recent Halo's and Call of Duty were making this game, i knew it would be a completely flop. They are masters at building a ton of hype that idiotic little kids buy into, but i have known better since halo 3, and call of duty 4. Erhm, Halo 3 was Bungie's eff you to MS since they were locked into project and a contract they just didn't want. The originators of COD are making Titanfall and that game is indeed looking better and better.
MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 62	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:38:00 - [3] - Quote semperfi1999 wrote: I agree that the Last of Us is amazing. However I could never see how a 3rd person shooter woudl completely kill a FPS even if the FPS was really bad (like dust). Numbers are still falling for dust dont let the server numbers fool you as they added Eve and Dust together to mask the actual dust numbers. That being said I am going to wait until Destiny is closer to coming out before I make any decision but it looked awesome at E3.....and even if its not PvP may still be worth getting. H-Hour, that's how. Lets face it the truest of truest shooter fans all have a link back to Socom 1 and Socom 2.
MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 62	Posted - 2013.07.08 19:41:00 - [4] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Destiny will be fun, but it will still be one of those loot-based FPSs with limited abilities and the only thing pushing you forward is the hope of finding a better gun, which will soon become useless as you level up a couple more times. There will be $15 expansions if you wish to continue seeking more guns to take down the bad guys, then in a couple years a $60 sequel. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy games like what Destiny appears to be, but it is no substitute for what Dust is working towards. Couple of years? Decade long development plan doesn't seem like a couple of years and bam a new game, think you have the wrong game in mind.
MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 66	Posted - 2013.07.08 20:45:00 - [5] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote: Serimos Haeraven wrote: When the developers of the the recent Halo's and Call of Duty were making this game, i knew it would be a completely flop. They are masters at building a ton of hype that idiotic little kids buy into, but i have known better since halo 3, and call of duty 4. Erhm, Halo 3 was Bungie's eff you to MS since they were locked into project and a contract they just didn't want. The originators of COD are making Titanfall and that game is indeed looking better and better. Titanfall is also a great example of how Activision can't actually develop anything truly new. They say that they are starting from scratch, when if you watch gameplay it's obvious they are still using repeated textures used in call of duty, the environment even practically looks the same as a CoD game when you watch the gameplay. That's the thing about bungie and Activision, they claim they are the innovative force in the gaming industry, when in-fact they are one of the least innovative in the entire business. And Halo 3 wasn't the only error in Bungie's long list, you also have Halo Wars (just a typical strategy game with halo slapped on the name), ODST (should have just been a simple dlc), and even movies made after Halo. They profited on the fact they could keep repeating the same ** over and over again and people would buy it. Same thing happened with Call of Duty. It doesn't take much to keep repeating the same thing that gives you easy profit, but it's a whole new ball game when you decide to truly innovate every title you release. Activision isn't producing this. The two originators (well one now) of COD who used to work on MOH who had a massive falling out with Activision when they **** them out of bonuses they deserved and were fired from activision for breach. Yea those guys who were gonna take a break got numerous offers and they demanded that anything they create they retain the IP in the end 2 publishers would agree to it, THQ and EA. Fortunately they chose EA. I recommend you read this months issue of gameinfomer has a real good article on titanfall and yea its not entirely new IP. They couldn't use the infinity ward engine since Activision owns it and building an entirely new engine from scratch would take too long so they used Valve's source engine (Left 4 Dead, Half-Life 2, Portal) and gutted and tweaked it to push their benchmark 60 FPS standard. As to you previous points just shows your ignorance coupled with your bias. Bungie was locked into a contract with MS and had no intention of going beyond Halo 3 and even that they really didnt want a a 3rd but had no choice, as I said earlier everything 3 and after was a giant FU to MS and them simply fulfilling their contract. Infinity ward after losing West and Zampanella which was right after MW 2 had basically brought in other teams to work on the games, so that's yet again a issue of publisher domineering over developer, has nothing to do with the devs themselves. Which brings me back to the point I made earlier Respawn retains the IP for Titanfall, so while EA maybe publishing it, Respawn can go tell EA to eff themselves if they try to strongarm their creative process of which they have some really great ideas and the way the game plays as what they term a campaign multiplayer is really looking good. So drink that haterade all you want but these games are all still better then dust and they aren't even out yet.
MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 66	Posted - 2013.07.08 21:06:00 - [6] - Quote Alucard Fang wrote: Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a great game. PvP doesn't really matter that much. Not every game has to be competitive... Destiny won't be open world either, but it will be very open with different places to go to. Its open world, but I read the giant bomb article and it here is the direct quote Player-versus-player combat will not be a factor out in the general world, but the game will feature some sort of competitive multiplayer component. So this suggests there wont be any open world ganking available which though disappointing makes sense given how frustrating it can be to players who just want to PVE that get interfered with. But that doesn't mean there wont be any PVP of any kind. Also if you don't think Bungie with a 10 year roadmap wont expand on the initial iteration and fiddle with some sort of persistence aspect then you underestimate Bungie and its ability to recognize that is where the shooter genre is heading for competitive MP experiences.